Issa Rae is bringing a comedy about a bisexual black man to HBO
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"Him or Her"
[quote]“The single-camera half-hour chronicles the dating life of a bisexual Black man and the distinctly different worlds and relationships he finds himself in,” the description of the show reads.
Well we have never had anything like this, I am intrigued.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 117 | January 18, 2019 5:24 PM |
Starring Taye Diggs as the bisexual man?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 19, 2017 8:17 PM |
I'm sure he would love to, but Taye Diggs is 46.
I imagine they will want to go 20s/30s.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 19, 2017 8:19 PM |
Will this be an actual bisexual man? Will we see him with another man at any point?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 19, 2017 8:24 PM |
So a show about someone who lies to himself?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 19, 2017 8:27 PM |
Good for Issa. Insecure is so raw and cool. Tho they need more Langston Kerman. Now that is one hot man
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 19, 2017 8:30 PM |
Someone who's attracted to both men and women R4
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 19, 2017 8:31 PM |
Wonder what the Trans Police will say about the title.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 19, 2017 8:32 PM |
Gary Carr was great on HBO's "The Deuce", this could be a great starring role for him.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 19, 2017 8:32 PM |
R8 the role should go to an African-American male actor.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 19, 2017 9:17 PM |
I really enjoyed Insecure she is very funny and smart. I will definitely be on the lookout for this.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 19, 2017 9:37 PM |
R9 Are you agreeing or saying that Gary Carr isn't African-American?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 11 | December 19, 2017 9:46 PM |
The poster was pointing out that Gary Carr is a Brit r11, he is not an African-American.
I don't see what it matters, but that is what they were saying.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 19, 2017 9:49 PM |
The oral sex stuff on Insecure was very strange. I cringe to think what those same writers will do with a storyline involving gay male behavior.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 19, 2017 9:51 PM |
Just as long as he could pass as straight when he is with a woman.... troll me I don’t care, it’s the truth.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 19, 2017 10:31 PM |
R7 Nothing but praise and approval!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 21, 2017 10:15 PM |
Why does that article capitalise the word black?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 21, 2017 10:18 PM |
Would it have been too much to have a black GAY man?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 21, 2017 10:25 PM |
She's obsessed by this topic, isn't she? Probably cheated on A LOT by some Brother om the downlow
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 21, 2017 10:35 PM |
Would it have been too much to have a WHITE gay man?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 21, 2017 10:41 PM |
Is her production company named Thirsty?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 21, 2017 10:45 PM |
Betcha ten bucks it never airs! There will be accusations of "making black men look bad" and misandry and homophobia and biphobia, and all the white SJW nitwits will protest against it because they'll protest on behalf of any person of color who complains of hurt feelings (whether they're in the right or being called on their shit).
If this is about black Down Low culture, as I suspect, it will be cancelled. A lot of people don't want discussions of Down Low behavior to go mainstream.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 21, 2017 11:30 PM |
Down Low is just another term for closeted. Not sure why it's seen as something extra-pathological.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 21, 2017 11:38 PM |
R11 and R13 No he isn't African-American. And yes I do think a black male actor from the US should get the role. Lots of people black and white actors have been complaining about English actors taking roles away from American actors in American film and television productions. It really has become a thing in many ways. And yes it dose matter very much.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 21, 2017 11:41 PM |
So where just going to act like down low white men don't exist? Because they do, in abundance at that. I know a handful myself.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 21, 2017 11:43 PM |
Intriguing. She got a lot of attention with the black bisexual character on INSECURE this past season. The black community, as a whole, is not very progressive with queer issues. I think this could be an important series.
That said, I hope they cast a hot brotha as the lead.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 22, 2017 12:33 AM |
Insecure is a great show. I hope this show does well. I agree with the other posters that this should be played by an AMERICAN actor. Brit actors trying to sound black are awful.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 22, 2017 1:02 AM |
*sound like black Americans
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 22, 2017 1:03 AM |
Hopefully they will cast a lot of hot Instagram Fitness bros like Jeramie Hollins and Simeon Panda as libe interests
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 22, 2017 2:00 AM |
Theo Breaux - hot, black and openly gay
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 31 | December 22, 2017 2:13 AM |
Good to See Black bisexuality gaining prominence
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 22, 2017 2:19 AM |
I want some hot to death buff Black Alphas on this show! And bl stinks!
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 22, 2017 2:29 AM |
The males must be masculine. No stereotypical crap
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 35 | December 22, 2017 2:51 AM |
The Fetishsizing of black men in this thread is very sad. Some people never learn.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 22, 2017 3:09 AM |
[QUOTE] English actors taking roles away from American actors in American film and television productions. It really has become a thing in many ways. And yes it dose matter very much.
Maybe they’re easier to work with?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 22, 2017 3:31 AM |
Flashman Wade must be on it!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 39 | December 22, 2017 6:01 AM |
Issa Rae cracks me up. Insecure is a show where every week she gets fucked by 2 or 3 hot men. Must be nice.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 22, 2017 6:09 AM |
[Quote] Maybe they’re easier to work with?
Seriously??
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 22, 2017 6:16 AM |
There's plenty of black women defending this show, honestly this "black homophobia" thing is just something white gays created to have a reason to be racist. They constantly ignore white homophobia (you know the white rebulican men who can steal your rights) but let a black man even look at a guy it's homophobia. Homophobia is homophobia
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 22, 2017 6:17 AM |
[quote]...honestly this "black homophobia" thing is just something white gays created to have a reason to be racist.
Wow. You don't actually KNOW any black people do you? You've certainly never living in a predominantly black neighborhood!
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 22, 2017 6:49 AM |
R44 And neither have you, again you're a racist elder queen who has an issue with "black homophobia" but ignore it from white people.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 22, 2017 6:54 AM |
Exactly. Who cares what old effem white Dudes think. This show is not for them.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 22, 2017 7:07 AM |
[quote]Down Low is just another term for closeted. Not sure why it's seen as something extra-pathological.
Now it's rebranded as bisexual. It's a good topic for a show because there are so many downlow, ahem, "bisexual" guys in the black community.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 22, 2017 7:41 AM |
R47 Unlike that white senator who was anti gay rights but fucking men on the side right? *ahem*
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 22, 2017 7:47 AM |
I've met Issa. She's SO smart and cool.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 22, 2017 8:09 AM |
Exactly R48 People are always trying to demonize black men. What about the laundry list of closeted homosexual republican white men. And priest rapping little boys in the Catholic church. And it gose on and on. The white community has it even worse. Remember they stay in the closet to. White evangelical Christians do not like gays either. So that leads to a lot of white men living down low lifestyles too. Their not exempt from that lifestyle. No matter what type of picture people try to paint concerning black men. WHITE MEN ARE DOWN LOW AS WELL. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 22, 2017 8:22 AM |
Bisexual black bruthas are hot! Make sure the casting is on point.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 22, 2017 2:43 PM |
Yes they are definitely going to cast some instagram himbo, and not someone who is a serious actor and carry an HBO series....
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 22, 2017 6:05 PM |
They will probably go with fresh actors
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 22, 2017 6:22 PM |
Bisexual men are way underrepresented in media and entertainment despite the fact bisexual And fluid identity is skyrocketing. I think media is fjvskjyvxarch up to the Bisexual Growth.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 22, 2017 9:59 PM |
"I think media is fjvskjyvxarch up to the Bisexual Growth."
You said it, friend.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 22, 2017 10:09 PM |
If the bruh-on-bruh sex scenes are anything like the scenes on Insecure, this show will sizzle. 🔥
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 22, 2017 10:50 PM |
I love Issa Rae. I wish she got half the attention as that disgusting Lens Dung.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 23, 2017 3:36 AM |
Those black men had better have big cocks.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 26, 2017 6:48 PM |
I love Issa Rae, she is so superior to Lena Dunham in every way. She was discovered through You-Tube, not nepotism. Her YT series is so much funnier than Insecure and she's a lot average-looking there. Her Awkward Black girl series was started as a college project and the first episode was shot on an iPhone.
I think it's brave of her to tackle this subject since the black community is pretty homophobic. My black female co-worker filed for divorce when she found out her hubby was DL. It seems to be pretty prevalent because the closet is more favorable than to be out.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 62 | December 26, 2017 7:06 PM |
Yo, I’m stoked about this show
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 26, 2017 7:14 PM |
R62, filing for divorce when you find out your spouse is closeted isn't homophobic in itself. Some people are willing to marry people they know are bisexual, but nobody but a complete fucking doormat will put up with a person who's been lying to them for years, or who's been cheating on them.
And if she found out he's bi after going through courtship and who knows how many years of marriage, then he was lying to her.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 26, 2017 7:20 PM |
R62 white evangelical Christians are worse. So that would mean white people are more homophobic then blacks. Remember the white evangelical Christians have us TRUMP. Black people don't vote against their own interests because of something stupid like homophobia. But whites do. Just thought I'd point that out to you.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 26, 2017 7:23 PM |
I just hope it's less boring than "Looking."
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 26, 2017 7:37 PM |
Oh yes....R43, Tone Bell. Would love to see him making it with another dude.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 26, 2017 7:48 PM |
[quote] Some people are willing to marry people they know are bisexual
She did not know or she denied the signals. I also knew a woman who had married her childhood sweetheart. After they got married, they were constantly arguing. He became a flight attendant and it was a great excuse to get away from his marriage. A couple of years into the marriage, he fell in love with a man. She was devastated when he told her but in a way, it was a relief for her. He was not honest with her and made her feel she was somehow responsible. Women who fall in love with gay or bisexual men are in a lot of denial. There are hints but they refuse to see it. In this case, it was someone she grew up with and had been madly in love with for years. The interesting thing was their sex life was normal until they married.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 26, 2017 8:35 PM |
And can we please stop with the whos community is more homophobic....do you know how homophobic the latino community is?? Rarely talked about but beats both white and black I can tell you that.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 26, 2017 11:04 PM |
R70, as a black dude, generally I find Latin dudes in my area much more accepting of male homosexuality. They still don’t like stereotypical gay men, but male-male actions are not as stigmatized as long as men who do them are macho
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 26, 2017 11:59 PM |
BLack men as a general group are some of the most Alpha men on the planet, and black women are largely responsible for perpetuating the expectation that black men be ultramasculine and don’t ever display any feminine charcstrtiscs. I often hear even the most liberal black women denigrate men who display any conduct that is not perceived as masculine. My liberal black female friends all say they are tolerant of men who are effeminate, but they also say could never date or be attracted to one, and don’t want their sons to be anything else but “all-man.”
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 27, 2017 12:11 AM |
FEW women of any race want a fem man.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 27, 2017 12:13 AM |
They’re calling her all sorts of names, throwing abuse saying it’s “disgusting”, “effeminizing of black men”, that it’s part of “the opressor’s agenda” to portray black men in a negative light, they’re calling her a “race traitor” and are urging people to boycott the show. Wow. These people really take their fictional characters seriously. Frankly the hatred and homophobia has taken me quite aback. I’m starting to wonder if they tolerated Barack Obama’s pro-LGBTQ initiatives simply because they couldn’t be seen to turn on a black president.
So such a character should never be made even though it’s based on a real person, former Daily Show writer Travon Free’s experiences? Wow!
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 27, 2017 12:15 AM |
[quote]FEW women of any race want a fem man.
That's really not the big issue that is getting people riled up about it. What really burns up some black women is that there are "ultramasculine" black men out there fucking other dudes, just like they would fuck a female. They don't want to believe that's how it goes down, but they should ask Lil Boosie about it!
There are many bisexual black men out there. Black men LOVE big booty. It's like kryptonite to the black man. They've made untold numbers of songs about it. And more and more of them are not discriminating if the ass belongs to a male or female. The only thing that keeps them from acting is the fear of being outed. But you treat a black man like a king, be sweet, and have a big butt. You will be getting that dick.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 27, 2017 1:40 AM |
You’re getting Carried away with your generalized claims about black women. You sound ridiculous with your Broad assertions that “they” have a single view on this. You have issues with black Women, bruh.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 27, 2017 2:03 AM |
Nope. I said "some" black women, bruh.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 27, 2017 2:09 AM |
FRank Ocean must make cameos
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 78 | December 27, 2017 2:12 AM |
Told you there'd be a backlash, R74. And somewhere far up in this thread I predicted that the backlash would be so strong that the show would never be aired, we'll see if i'm right.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 27, 2017 2:53 AM |
I just saw Aldis Hodge in the new season of BLACK MIRROR and I'd very much like to see him very naked.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 82 | December 29, 2017 11:20 PM |
We know Issa wants hot dudes on her shows. So that is a good sign
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 30, 2017 7:50 PM |
R86 The last one of the fourth season, Black Museum. But it's not a sexy role.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 4, 2018 2:12 PM |
And by that I mean he doesn't take his shirt off.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 4, 2018 2:17 PM |
The Black Mirror DJ episode had a lot of hot dudes, including a biracial one
by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 4, 2018 2:18 PM |
I knew nothing of this series until I saw a thread about it on an urban site(not LSA.)
The women were on fire and hating on Issa big time. I have enjoyed reading the perspectives of black men in this thread thus far, and I particularly agree with the man who said that black women really have a problem with great looking black men who are masculine having relations or relationships with other men. And make that double if the other man is white.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 5, 2018 10:29 AM |
Every single person attacking Issa over this is a homophobic POS and I will enjoy taking them down once this show airs, on DL and elsewhere.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 5, 2018 2:08 PM |
[QUOTE] Black men LOVE big booty. It's like kryptonite to the black man.
Complete racist stereotype.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 5, 2018 2:41 PM |
As a black dude, I can attest black and Latin guys are much more focused on ass than white guys, and we tend to like big round bubble butts.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 5, 2018 2:49 PM |
I’m a white guy and I love a FAT round ass even more than cocks, muscles, money, or charm.
So yeah no. Stereotype.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 5, 2018 3:02 PM |
It’s “phat,” not “fat,” bruh.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 5, 2018 3:15 PM |
"Invisible Life" on the TV screen finally!
by Anonymous | reply 100 | February 2, 2018 6:11 AM |
R98: Just recycle the Noah's Arc cast!!
by Anonymous | reply 101 | February 2, 2018 6:13 AM |
Is the show just for guys?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | February 2, 2018 6:22 AM |
I can't wait. Hopefully its as good as Insecure.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | February 2, 2018 7:06 AM |
No r101. This has to be a more masculine, buffer, broish cast. Modern sensibilities
by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 2, 2018 1:08 PM |
[bold]Issa Rae Calls Criticism Of New Sexual Fluidity Project ‘Him Or Her’ “Absolutely Ridiculous”[/bold]
This is from June. Haven't found anything about an air date.
[quote][bold]You’re doing a new project, Him or Her, which is about sexual fluidity. Back in Season 1 of Insecure you had a storyline about that topic. Is that what brought you to this?[/bold]
[quote]Travon Free—the writer, the creator of the project—approached us with it. And he said that episode of Insecure was a first time that he had felt like his story was being told in a way. And that conversation reflected so much of his personal experience. I think it was something that he’d been working on for a while, but I think that episode was just, “Oh, I’ve got to get this story out there.” And so it coincided with, we were looking for fresh voices, and he pitched that and it really excited me, because I’ve just never seen anything on TV like that. I’m just rooting for his show and he’s still working on it. It’s still very early.
[quote][bold]There was some negativity online about it not being a welcome representation of black men. Did that feel painful?[/bold]
[quote]I remember just being pissed all day. Sometimes you live in a bubble, you live in a liberal bubble where you think that everyone is open, and in my eyes progressive in a way where there are so many human experiences, black experiences, gender experiences. There are so many stories to tell. The fear that a story like that would be told when it’s the story of so many other people is just absolutely ridiculous. The censorship and the idea that black men can’t be all things and still be black men is just absurd, it is.
[quote]Telling all types of stories, straight, gay, trans, whatever it is. It’s not an experience that I have. But, I want to see all kinds of stories. We’re just scratching the surface, and there’s plenty of voices beyond me that are going to do that anyway.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 106 | August 1, 2018 11:25 PM |
If it’s in production now, have they casted actors?
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 2, 2018 8:16 PM |
It's currently in development phase, so pretty far off from production still. Which is unfortunate because I'd like to (binge) watch this NOW! Definitely one of the shows I'm most looking forward to.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 2, 2018 8:53 PM |
And LenaWaithe and Kid Fury are developing a black gay male show for hbo
by Anonymous | reply 111 | August 2, 2018 9:23 PM |
The late E. Lynn Harris wrote a series of novels with down low protagonists, and his books were hugely popular among Black women.
I am reminded that when Lynn "made it" he moved into Trump Tower.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 2, 2018 11:02 PM |
The black down low brotha is a played out subject, so 2001. The black bi and fluid brotha is what’s hot now.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 3, 2018 12:27 AM |
Any relation to Charlotte Rae? I hear she died.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 6, 2018 3:56 AM |
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